Tuesday, October 9, 2012 , 5:30 - 8:30 p.m.,
Natural Resources Administrative Offices, 1800 S. County Road 31, Loveland, CO
Steve Johnson, Commissioner
The October 9, 2012, meeting of the Parks Advisory Board was called to order by Chair Russ Fruits at 5:34 p.m. The minutes of the August 14, 2012, meeting were approved.
PUBLIC COMMENT: Items not on the agenda - None
Board and staff comment:
Steve Ambrose: Really likes the cooperation among agencies.
Is there conflict with people who don’t want their adjoining property to
increase in value? What happens with properties that are so far out, no one
gets to see the view that’s been preserved?
Kerri: There are different values to different types of properties – not everyone receives the same benefit from every property. Some types of benefits may be more common to urban open space (community gardens for example) versus other types more appropriate to rural, county open space, like hunting.
Linda Knowlton: What has the response rate been so far? (About 20% so far, which is comparatively high.)
John Tipton: Re 300 follow-up questionnaires sent to individuals from the pool who responded? (Yes.) It could be good to send some out to those who did not respond, if they can be identified.
Sail & Saddle Club License renewal – Mark Caughlan, Horsetooth District Manager
Board and staff comments:
Linda Knowlton: Why not increase the fee, like the Carter Lake
Dan: The rate is reasonable compared to the market. There is no one expressing interest in that facility; we don’t want to make it cost prohibitive for them.
Mark: The club pays $4000 per year for road access to the facility, which they own.
Ron Kainer: What is the size of the club (20 families, based on
Gary Buffington: There is no public access by land; only by sea.
David Hattis: Is there a non-discrimination clause in the
license? (Yes – BOR requires federal provisions as attachments.)
Dan Rieves: The club owns the building. If a different user group came in, they would have to buy out the facility. The license is not transferable, so it would be difficult to sell the facility without the county’s cooperation. The department currently has no use for that facility. Access issues could be prohibitive. We would probably lease it out. The building is concrete bunker-esque. The road would not meet public use standards.
Linda Knowlton: Federal requirements pertaining to exclusive use – how is that addressed? Do they sponsor any public events? We need to keep this in mind as license renewals come up, and as the master plan is updated.
Dan Rieves: In the license, they must make it available for other
Frank Cada: Have they been good tenants, get along with other
park visitors, etc? As a landlord, if he has a good tenant who pays the rent,
he is reluctant to raise the rent and risk losing them.
Dan Rieves: The club has severe penalties for abuse of
privileges. In a recent example, the offending member was fined and
Gary Buffington: We may look at this again in the next master plan update.
STANDING AGENDA ITEMS:
Park District updates and Parks Master Plan Implementation Progress report – Dan Rieves, Visitor Services Manager
High Park Fire business
interruption costs – if you can dedicate someone who is talented with numbers,
you can recreate revenues by the day. Maryann King on the Admin and Accounting
staff pulled together these numbers for us to submit to Risk Management.
Losses from High Park fire totalled
$75,000 for the total period (3 weeks before and 3 weeks after the event); and
$32,000 for the actual dates of closure for each park area.
ANS Monitoring budget for 2013 – we plan to ask for
what we got this year, even though due to the fire and low water, we have not
used all the money yet.,
Automated pay stations – ready for installation at 10
locations. We have moved these away from the entrance station, and located
them to be drive-though facilities where possible. At some locations like Horsetooth
Mountain Open Space, visitors need to first find parking before purchasing a
permit. All locations will be installed by about 10/15.
Dead trees in S. Bay have been removed, now that
facilities manager, Steve Peck, is back from an extended absence. We will be
discussing with neighbors to decide whether additional trees are required.
§ We have identified brush to be cleared for survey crews to locate corner pins, etc.
A tour will be scheduled for the new board members of
the Hermit Park and Estes campgrounds. If interested, let Deb know. (Steve
Ambrose is interested.)
There is another LCSO award ceremony at Timberline
Church on October 29. Kyle Williams, seasonal park ranger, is being recognized
for meritorious service for the pitbull incident this summer. A dog off leash
bit a young girl, and refused to let go. Ranger Williams was able to choke the
dog with the broken leash until it let go. While bystanders restrained the
dog, he administered emergency first aid until the child was transported to the
Horsetooth Reservoir is beginning to refill – up 10
feet from the low point. Above average snow pack is critical to next year’s
Revenue at Horsetooth was still good, despite all the
CSU homecoming float with a
ranger on horseback is one of our PR events.
Riverbank restoration at Lions Park has been very
helpful to restore stream bank lost during heavy run-off years.
§ Fishing at Horsetooth has been phenomenal this fall. Our fishery tends to cycle for 5 or 6 years. This is a good year.
Board and staff comments:
Ambrose: Thanked Dan for the tour.
Gillespie: Someone asked him how we are preventing Canada geese from
transporting zebra mussels into Horsetooth Reservoir.
Rieves: There is no hard science to show that birds transport mussels between
bodies of water. It’s always due to interconnected reservoirs, or
contamination by infected materials like boats, piers, etc.
The Narrows – Work was
stopped waiting for surveying, which is happening now; we hope to get it done
before the end of the year. There will be a new list of priority properties
for 2013. Our goal is to retain as much fishing access as possible. Many of
the targeted trades and deals with private land owners are aimed at improving
Gary wants to thank
some people for getting our ranger program to the high quality we have. Dan
Rieves, Chris Fleming, Mark Caughlan and Travis Rollins have done a great job
over the past 10 years to bring our program up to standard.
· A list of the meeting dates for 2013 was distributed. All but one are scheduled for the Courthouse, since so many meetings have been canceled this year and last which were supposed to be at the Courthouse.
The meeting was adjourned at 7:00 p.m.
Russell Fruits, Chair
Next regular meeting: November 13, 2012, 5:30 – 8:30 p.m., Boyd Lake Room, Larimer County Courthouse Office Building, 200 W. Oak St., Fort Collins, CO
Public can view agenda and minutes at www.larimer.org/parks